It's Not Going To Happen
Frank Turk posted a very interesting comment here which said:
"Does any person who ought to be condemned to hell escape because God is somehow not concerned or involved enough about sending them to hell that they escape his wrath? For example, is it possible that, in the final account, Judas will be judged by God worthy of hell but will escape God's wrath and spend eternity in heaven with the saints?
Now, Frank's no clown. He knows the implications of such a question - and He knows the answer too. But also, there are quite a few very good comments in the thread that are well worth reading. Give it a look and see what you think.
Rick
Title: The Early Church Fathers: Ante-Nicene Fathers Volume 1
Author: Irenaeus - Against Heresies, Book 1, Ch. 31, 1 [A.D. 120-202.]
Chap. XXXI.—Doctrines of the Cainites.
1. Others again declare that Cain derived his being from the Power above, and acknowledge that Esau, Korah, the Sodomites, and all such persons, are related to themselves. On this account, they add, they have been assailed by the Creator, yet no one of them has suffered injury. For Sophia was in the habit of carrying off that which belonged to her from them to herself. They declare that Judas the traitor was thoroughly acquainted with these things, and that he alone, knowing the truth as no others did, accomplished the mystery of the betrayal; by him all things, both earthly and heavenly, were thus thrown into confusion. They produce a fictitious history of this kind, which they style the Gospel of Judas.
"Does any person who ought to be condemned to hell escape because God is somehow not concerned or involved enough about sending them to hell that they escape his wrath? For example, is it possible that, in the final account, Judas will be judged by God worthy of hell but will escape God's wrath and spend eternity in heaven with the saints?
Now, Frank's no clown. He knows the implications of such a question - and He knows the answer too. But also, there are quite a few very good comments in the thread that are well worth reading. Give it a look and see what you think.
Rick
Title: The Early Church Fathers: Ante-Nicene Fathers Volume 1
Author: Irenaeus - Against Heresies, Book 1, Ch. 31, 1 [A.D. 120-202.]
Chap. XXXI.—Doctrines of the Cainites.
1. Others again declare that Cain derived his being from the Power above, and acknowledge that Esau, Korah, the Sodomites, and all such persons, are related to themselves. On this account, they add, they have been assailed by the Creator, yet no one of them has suffered injury. For Sophia was in the habit of carrying off that which belonged to her from them to herself. They declare that Judas the traitor was thoroughly acquainted with these things, and that he alone, knowing the truth as no others did, accomplished the mystery of the betrayal; by him all things, both earthly and heavenly, were thus thrown into confusion. They produce a fictitious history of this kind, which they style the Gospel of Judas.
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