Facts on Carnality
The Doctrine of Traducianism
The traducianist view (Lat. tradux, “branch” or “shoot”), urging that God carries out his “vertical” work primarily in and through horizontal or mediate means, holds that after the immediate creation of Adam both body and soul of each individuals are immediately formed and propagated together by the natural generation effected by the sexual union of the human male and female. It appeals primarily to four texts: Genesis 2:2, 21 (interpreted by I Cor. 11:8), Romans 5:12, and Hebrews 7:9-10.
Source: “The Origin of the Soul”, in A New Systematic Theology Of The Christian Faith, Dr. Robert L. Reymond (Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1998), 424
“When we were born physically we inherited from Adam the flesh with its propensity to sin. When we were born spiritually and given a new spirit, a new heart, God broke the back of sin, crippled its ability, and paid its penalty. But the tendency to evil remains. The one word that best characterizes the flesh, our humanness, our Adamic nature, is selfish. The sin of Adam, like the sin of the tempter when he fell (Isa. 14:13), centered on setting his own will and interests against God’s; and that has been the center of sin ever since.”
Source: MacArthur, J. (1996, c1984). 1 Corinthians. Chicago: Moody Press
The Promise of the New Covenant in Christ
25 I will also sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean. I will cleanse you from all your impurities and all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will remove your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will place My Spirit within you and cause you to follow My statutes and carefully observe My ordinances.
Source: The Holy Bible : Holman Christian standard version. 2003 (Eze 36:25-27). Nashville: Holman Bible Publishers.
Paul, the Carnal Christian?
“The whole individual, body and mind, is “flesh” outside of Christ. In Romans 7:14 Paul contrasts “flesh” and “spirit” and indicates that the moral sense of “flesh” is involved here. The word Spirit should be capitalized, because the reference is to the Holy Spirit. The law is spiritual because it comes from the Spirit of God.
But haven’t Christians been liberated from bondage to sin and from the flesh? What Paul means is that, even though he has been redeemed and made a new man, he is still afflicted with a principle of indwelling sin. He is still to some degree a creature of the flesh, sold under sin. It is not, nor can it be, however, characteristic of the Christian’s entire life, nor can he or she be content in it.”
Source: Sproul, R. (2000, c1992). Vol. 1: Before the face of God : Book One: A daily guide for living from the book of Romans.
The traducianist view (Lat. tradux, “branch” or “shoot”), urging that God carries out his “vertical” work primarily in and through horizontal or mediate means, holds that after the immediate creation of Adam both body and soul of each individuals are immediately formed and propagated together by the natural generation effected by the sexual union of the human male and female. It appeals primarily to four texts: Genesis 2:2, 21 (interpreted by I Cor. 11:8), Romans 5:12, and Hebrews 7:9-10.
Source: “The Origin of the Soul”, in A New Systematic Theology Of The Christian Faith, Dr. Robert L. Reymond (Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1998), 424
“When we were born physically we inherited from Adam the flesh with its propensity to sin. When we were born spiritually and given a new spirit, a new heart, God broke the back of sin, crippled its ability, and paid its penalty. But the tendency to evil remains. The one word that best characterizes the flesh, our humanness, our Adamic nature, is selfish. The sin of Adam, like the sin of the tempter when he fell (Isa. 14:13), centered on setting his own will and interests against God’s; and that has been the center of sin ever since.”
Source: MacArthur, J. (1996, c1984). 1 Corinthians. Chicago: Moody Press
The Promise of the New Covenant in Christ
25 I will also sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean. I will cleanse you from all your impurities and all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will remove your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will place My Spirit within you and cause you to follow My statutes and carefully observe My ordinances.
Source: The Holy Bible : Holman Christian standard version. 2003 (Eze 36:25-27). Nashville: Holman Bible Publishers.
Paul, the Carnal Christian?
“The whole individual, body and mind, is “flesh” outside of Christ. In Romans 7:14 Paul contrasts “flesh” and “spirit” and indicates that the moral sense of “flesh” is involved here. The word Spirit should be capitalized, because the reference is to the Holy Spirit. The law is spiritual because it comes from the Spirit of God.
But haven’t Christians been liberated from bondage to sin and from the flesh? What Paul means is that, even though he has been redeemed and made a new man, he is still afflicted with a principle of indwelling sin. He is still to some degree a creature of the flesh, sold under sin. It is not, nor can it be, however, characteristic of the Christian’s entire life, nor can he or she be content in it.”
Source: Sproul, R. (2000, c1992). Vol. 1: Before the face of God : Book One: A daily guide for living from the book of Romans.
sung by Rick at 8:09 PM
2 Comments:
Reymond was quite the man to see in person, he had a gravitas that was palpable...
I can imagine. I like his writing style although sometimes I have to really think through some of his comments. The first book I read of his was "Jesus: Divine Messiah" which I really enjoyed. I'm having a little bit more trouble with some of the technical aspects in his systematic theology.
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